The Graveyard

Last Update: Cleaned up main rentry, updated Frontend's Guide, shuffled papers


"Zoinks Scoob! This is one S-S-S-Spooky graveyard. Let's hope there's no S-S-S-Skeletons!" - Shaggy, moments before Mr. Spooky Skeleton appeared to scare them.


Beware, Traveler

This Graveyard is vast—brimming with secrets, lore, and the occasional dancing skeleton. It’s dangerous to wander alone, so take this map and proceed with caution:

  1. Personal Information
    Who is Skelly, exactly? Dive into my backstory, accounts, and skeleton trivia.
  2. Personal Guides
    From building lorebooks to picking a chatbot host—these tutorials cover the basics (and then some). My guides are made to give you the baseline to use the tools given to you.
  3. The Necromancer’s Guide To Creating Life
    Quick tips, sampler settings, and my personal recommendations—perfect for tinkerers and creators from my literary focused point of view.
  4. Library of the Undead
    A grand building of my own lore creations, plus resources gifted by other botmakers of yore.

Table of Contents



Personal Information


Accounts


Account Created Followers Active or Defunct
Chub 2025-09-26 647 Followers Semi-Active
Wyvernchat 2024-10-11 76 Followers Deleted (See open letter)
Janitor 2024-10-16 145 Followers Defunct
Character.ai 2024-09-15 136 Followers Defunct

The Story of My Unlife

Thank you for checking out my Rentry! I began my journey as a humble skeletal consumer (yes, literally skeletal—I don’t hide my bones!). From there, I worked as an apprentice cook in AWR, where I slowly developed my writer's muscles and body of work until I earned my partnership and the right to begin a journey of my own, exploring the perilous world of botmaking to its fullest potential. So as you can tell, I'm a bit of a nomad, travelling from discord to discord, topic to topic, and site to site— in search of hidden oases. In my guides I aim to share any new resources and knowledge I discover for every level of creator.

As for what kind of characters I make, they range from fluffy fantasy to serious self-analysis, exploration of feelings, and even bots that I'd call shitpost satire. The common thread being that they all aim to create a story that explores new questions, themes, settings, and sometimes, myself. I tend to meld genres or themes, serious and silly, taking bits and pieces of inspiration from everywhere! Real life, stories, and yes, other bots. You’ll notice no two of my bots are formatted the same. Why? Because each one is an experiment—a chance to nudge boundaries in concept, structure, or method. The result? A library where, regardless of who you are, there's at least one book just waiting for you to fall in love with.

So let's tell a story, stranger—together. One the world has never heard before or one the world has heard a thousand times differently, reimagined by your voice. Let’s see where our collaboration takes us.


Personal Guides:


Front Ends Primer: A Comparison of Different Chatbot Sites

Views Published Length Last Updated
Sept 26: 514 February 17th Short Sept 26

Model Hosts Primer: A Comparison of Different Companies That Offer Cloud Access To API's

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March 20th: 360 February 17th Medium Feb 17th

Lorebooks & Entries: 1.2V

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March 20th: 353 February 28th Whole Ass Book Feb 28th

Bot Making Challenges & Writing Inspiration: 0.6 WIP

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March 20th: 46 March 6th Blurb March 20th

Art Necronomicon: Built for newbies!!

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April 9th: 139 April 7th Medium April 9th

Art Tag Collection

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April 9th Blurb April 15th

The Necromancer's Guide To Creating Life

Model Recommendations:

  1. Deepseek V3/R1: I recommend using the free LLamma model off Openrouter with Soup LLamma preset
  2. Wayfarer(12B/70B): Released by AI Dungeon, this model has been trained to push back against positivity bias to provide a realistic adventure/dungeon experience.
  3. EVA: The Featherless Classic.
  4. WizardLM-8x22b: A long-time top-tier model.
  5. Kunou 72b/Cirrus 70b: SAO's flagship newest models. Good logic, emotional writing and low -isms.
  6. Anubis: Similar to number four, but made by Drummer. Good stuff.
  7. Damascus & Nevoria R1.

The amazing Pepper has a table of models with some excellent info. Until I finish my own guide I recommend using it.

ABANDONED: Modern Model Guide


Tips:


Tip 1: Example Dialog (Feb 05, 2025)

You can get your bots to keep accents, even humorously specific, much better if you give them example dialogue incorporating them. It can be just simple, one-sentence quotes.

Writing long extended example dialogue to brute force the bot into writing about specific topics can cause some issues. In the very worst case, it might cause your bots to become lazy and regurgitate them.
However, let’s say you have a character personality trait you find is being misinterpreted or doesn't have enough weight in roleplay. Well, a quick one to two line e-d can fix that!

E-D's are essential when you're making a bot that needs to follow a very particular format, and the prompts in the description aren't enough. i.e, an RPG bot, or a demi-human with particular quirks.

Example: Zoey is a scaredy cat wizard who is trying to fight monsters <START>

{{char}}: Zoey's knees wobble and turn to jello in a panic, sending her down to the stone dungeon floor. * "S-s-s-tay back! Fff..Firebolt!"
She calls out desperately, flailing the oak staff wildly, causing sparking magic to fly out and towards the slime.*


You shouldn’t feel too bad over not using them. E-D’s are often the most ignored section, which is a shame considering older models like JLLM can only thrive with that kind of reinforcement.

YMMV of course. Each bot, model, and preset is different. However, In my personal opinion, E-D still has a place in setting style, prose, and personality. However, in my opinion, even though newer models need E-D's less and less to properly keep in character, they are still very helpful in setting style, prose, and personality. It's the show your work section and it can be where you can direct your bot if you want it to do beyond the typical.

Personally, I like to use E-D’s in #JED when writing character's opinions on things, to give the model a peak into how the character thinks.
Additional advice for preventing repeats are:

a. writing your e-d about a situation that wouldn't happen in the typical RP
b. writing as a 'preamble' (Writing a conversation that happened before the greeting)
c. Setting the E-D’s in the past.


Tip 2: Naming (Feb 07, 2025)

Choose a defining property of character. Translate it into Latin. Repeat until I get 1 good first and last name or a few I can turn into a portmantou
OR
Take defining property. Look up names related to it until success.
OR
The following link may prove to be of help

Tip 3: Editing a rough draft! (Feb 12, 2025)

When you go through your next project, I'd like you to keep the following questions in mind:

  1. What else could you add to bring {{char}} to life?
  2. What could be cut without hurting the bot?
  3. How could you drive in specific core concepts?
  4. What was your goal with this boat? How does each section tie back into it?
  5. What can the AI handle itself without code?
  6. How could you drive in specifics better?

And when you are working with #JED:

What new categories could I make, and how do the ones I have need further elucidating to differentiate my bot?

Tip 4: Bot Length: What length should your bot be? (Feb 18, 2025)

In general:
  • Short card: 500-800
  • Standard default: 800-1200
  • Little heavy: 1300-1800
  • Okay, starting to hit the limit of what is reasonable: 1800-2.2k
  • Janitor and chub models memory is going to suffer: 2.2k-2.5k
  • I've got an autobiography: 2.5k+

In general, you can put much worldbuilding in Lorebooks, leaving short lines to act as keys. Or, let the AI build upon those single sentences. You should only write 1.5+ k if you need specific facts remembered, or you are writing something bigger than a single char in a bot.

  • The community standard for large: 1.5k+
  • The technical standard for large: 2.0-2.5k
    Of course: ymmv.
Complicating factors:
  1. How complex is this char features
  2. How many moving parts are there (is this an RPG? CYOA?)
  3. Does the LLM know your characters most already, or do you need to explain the nuances of their personality with reinforcement? (also why specifying your testing model is important)
  4. What format did you decide to use? (Prose takes up space for a lot of stuff for example. Settings that can be keywords are fleshed out in ways good and bad.)
  5. What is the lowest common denominator of model you expect people to be running? (A 1k bot takes up a quarter of space on JLLM, but only 1/16 on a model like loosecannon.)
    All these can shift the scale up and down. However; I use the above as a baseline. That is very valid! However, you have to keep the posting website in mind if you want people to find, and use your cards. If only 10% of the audience has specs to run your card, it's going to get buried.

That is not to say you should compromise on quality; only that brevity and skilled use of Lorebooks go a long way to making ones creations more approachable to users.

For example: when I made my SCP CYOA I included the barest details of what each object and lore was, with a optional add on Lorebook to get the full experience for those who had the specs to run it. Lorebooks expand the stage for the story; but not having them didn't make the bot function any worse.
Extra:
A good rule of thumb is to try to keep things 'efficient' and not waste words. Aim for under 2k total perm. However; if you have a token heavy goal in mind; follow alicats rule of up to 1/4th of the context. Heck, if its really big (4k+) I'd recommend writing in the Tagline to use specific large context models like Deepseek.

Tip 5: The following is a pre-publishing checklist for those wanting to establish an audience: (September 26, 2025)

  1. Work on simplifying the creator notes. They must be able to hook a total newbie
  2. Test your bot. See if the personality is right. Mechanics work. If it reacts the way you intended when designing
  3. Refine your tokens. Remember llms know shit. Not everything. Sometimes they just guess based on contextual clues. This is another good thing to test for, see if they can get info accurately without you having to include it (useful when your building in a known genre or world)
  4. Do not expect messages. Be happy for them. But do not be entitled to them.
  5. Remember, remember, remember to work on what makes you happy.
  6. Try to give your bot an edge to stand out from the ocean of other content.
  7. Try to do at least 3 greetings.

Bonus: You also don't have to follow a format if you dont want to. Depends how your approaching the botmaking and what you value. I write for ideas first, performance second, experimenting/novelty third, and numbers last. Focus on what you value in the process of creation, and that will shine through in the final product.


Kirandra Tip: Don't use gender and height:

Listing height and weight as numbers is useless, LLMs are notoriously bad at understanding those. just say "tall/short" or "twice/thrice as heavy as a normal human" etc. i also find gender unnecessary since you'll already be referring to the bot as "she" a lot in the description and greeting. basically imagine you are trying to describe your bot to a person who has never learnt a single unit of measurement. how tall is five feet? no clue, but "much shorter than the average human male" gives an immediate picture.


Sed Tip

The personality traits list (The 300 positive and negatives) are great, but one useful practice is to ask the model you mainly intend to use to describe the traits itself. That way you get an even greater understanding of a personality trait you may or may not want your Bot to have.


Sampler Settings Cheat Sheet

Rules Of Engagement:

  • Min P or Top P, never both EXCEPT in Qwen
  • Top K: No lower then 50, No higher then 100. should be left anywhere from 50-100
  • Temp: Don't go above 1.0.
  • Min P Set at 0.02, should be increased for sanity in increments of 0.005
  • Top P: 0.95 do not change.
Issue Adjustments
I want more creativity. Increase Temperature, lower Min P or use Top P.
I want more logical/grounded text. Lower Temperature, raise Min P, use Top K.
Too repetitive. Increase Rep Penalty, lower Min P, set Temp to model recommended, or try Mirostat.
Overly weird/unfitting words. Lower Top P or raise Min P, lower Top K, lower Temp.
Responses too short/cut off. Increase Min Tokens (50–100), adjust Max Tokens (200–500), disable length penalty, or raise it so the AI doesn't stop.

Full AI Sampler Settings Fact Sheet — For Further Information: GUIDE 1 & GUIDE 2 & Openrouter Explanation of Parameters


Library of the Undead: WIP



Borrowable Books



Shelves


Shelf of Bots

Moved to a new location


Botmaking Formats


System Prompts

TLDR: A SYSTEM PROMPT IS ALL THE ROLEPLAY RULES, WRITING STYLES, AND NUANCES DESIRED ROLLED INTO ONE BLOCK OF TEXT.

I was going to write up a short guide on understanding a system prompt but my computer ate it. :c If you want to understand WHAT a System Prompt is, I recommend you read the following before continuing on.


Characteristic Keywords:

General - Positive - Negative


Dictionaries: (All in one Guides)

PYG – Trappu & Alicat) - Iorveth's - XMLK's Prompts and Guides Three stars! - #JED Oriented Guide - Absolutetrash Guide & Character Template - Cheese Deepseek Notes


Atlases: (Meta Lists - Click at your own risk)

META-META Bot List - 4CHAN AICG - Meta List of bots - Local Models List - /AICG/ Meta List of Guides & Bots - ST User styles - Guides to botmaking A - Guides to botmaking B - Janitor.ai Oriented Meta List - Personality Traits


Appendix:


  1. Model Rater:
  1. Spellchecker's:
  1. Bot Creation Menu:
  1. Perchance helpful websites: Question This & World Generator
  1. Model Leaderboards:
  1. Markdown guide
  1. Cool website host
  1. Character Card Archive:
  1. Macro Quick List:
  1. Literary Advice:
  1. Image Host's
  1. A few interesting threads from r/writing: I may synthesize or write some tips of my own using these as a base.
  1. Software to store all your notes:
  1. I forog word: describe it here
  1. Design Help:
  1. Worldbuilding:
  1. Info about Models.
  1. Free Photo Editor Website:

What happened too your Wyvern? Why aren't you making guides? Archived Page

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Pub: 28 Feb 2025 20:06 UTC

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