Teocuacayotl Government Revision Plan

MB Post >>41221162

Founder, I have some ideas for a way to streamline /meat/'s administration and government lore. Which are both lacking and fuzzy in some parts. Climeat and PG, if you guys are around you can join in. Non-/meat/ writers can chime in their thoughts if you wish.

Problems

1. Assumptions of unitary government
   Just like every other people who do not read, is that everyone assumed that /meat/ is one unitary state that bows down to the central government in Nacatlah.
2. Vague separation of power
   While we established that /meat/ is a federation of multiple administratives, we have not fully flesh out these divisions which led to some confusion. Are these divisions states, districts, counties? To top it all of some are still in the dark about diplomacy as they assume that everything has to go through Nacatlah first, when in practice each division is free to carry out their diplomacy independently.

Real life inspiration

We have established that /meat/ takes inspirations from the Aztec and the Norse. This is actually a great boon for us for these two powers have the solutions we need.

1. Triple Alliance
   The Aztec/Mexica is NOT a single unitary power. It is in fact an alliance of THREE separate similarly likeminded powers (Tlacopan, Tetzcoco, Mexico) under the guidance of the tlatoani. In practice, these states are autonomous entirely, with the capital being the military leadership. The Hueytlatoani deals with external matters of the alliance, while the Cihuacoatl is the leader of each alliance member.
2. Norse Thing/Council of Four
   We've established in lore that leadership is an elective theocracy, from the intelligentsia caste through merit, in a bottom-up hierachy.
   Town clergy elects district clergy, elects state clergy, elects realm clergy.
   However we have not established the system in whole.
   In Aztec society, the Hueytlatoani is elected from the Council of Four. This inspiration fits seamlessly well with what we have. But instead of FOUR, it will be made up of the realmly ministers you have written prior; Rikitnahualli, Rikitlachixqui, Rikitlaeknir, Rikitpochteca, Rikitemachtiani, Rikitlalchiuhqui.
   Recall the number of Realm Ministers, SIX.
   But it needs one more function.
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thing_(assembly)
   In Norse society, legislative is done through an assembly, the thing. I propose that things are the method inn which the leaders are elected. A town thing elects the town clergy. A national thing elects the national leader, our Council of Four shall enter an alliance-wide allthing to elect the Rikittlatoani.

Solutions

Supranational Theocracy
/meat/ is not a single unitary nation. Inspired by the Triple Alliance, it is in fact a supranational alliance of SIX separate clergy states;

• Nacatlah (Including the island of shadows)
• Nacatlan
• Matiriki
• Atoyavik
• Ryonaheim
• Namakubi
  SIX separate states, SIX Realmly ministers. And our flag has SIX eyes.
  The Realmly ministers ARE the leader of each clergy state (the Rikitlaeknir is the king-priest of Atoyavik etc) with the Rikittlatoani being the alliance leader, our EU chairman of sorts. Who are elected through things of varying stages.
  Each state is allowed to freely carry out their tasks independently as long as they do not go against the Rikittlatoani. This clear separation of power will allow for more complex diplomacy and arrangements. Such as Matiriki being friendlier with /nasfaqg/ and /morig/, but Namakubi despises /nasfaqg/ and /morig/ for it is also a mercantile trade power being pestered by the Black Fleet.

That is my proposal for the confusion of our government and its administration.

MB Post >>41222778

That is where I chose NOT to take inspiration from the HRE or any similarly imperial systems. Under an empire, the emperor is in charge of the foreign policies. Even if a king does not want war, they are forced to under the command of the emperor.
By making /meat/ an alliance, each member is allowed to decide their own foreign policy. This allows for some 'leeway' with how we do diplomacy and trade.

Such as the Golden Circle proposal and the Ailivian Trade League, the treaty could be made with every /meat/ members except one.
Another is that it allows for more in depth connections to be made. Foreign powers can do deals with /meat/ if each member has different foreign policies. The cloak and dagger-ish leader of Atoyavik will not deal with heathens, but Ryonaheim is willing to out of pragmatism.

This solves our biggest plothole: Why would a fundamentalist clergy state do deals with other fundamentalist clergy states?
It is because we are not one nation.
Another reason for this division is that it allows us to represent our thread with six parts
Namakubi: Our stealth threads. Nobody knows it'a ours but visits it.
Ryonaheim: Our orthodox side. For discussion of Akira and co
Atoyavik: Our avant-garde side. Represents us discussing adult or weird, but non ryona, chuubas like Milk and Tsugu.
Nacatlah: Our fanfic/abuse side. Represents our writings of corpos being abused amd eaten.

MB Post >>41224427

Also a little thing I realised.
If the supranational ministers ARE the leaders of each alliance members, this will ensure mutual trust between the /meat/ states.
The Rikitnahualli is elected from the leader of Nacatlah.
The Rikitlaeknir is elected from the leader of Matiriki.
That way, even if the leader of Matiriki has power over their state, per the alliance magical activities is decided by the Rikitnahualli in Nacatlah.
In return, the Matiriki leader will be in charge of deciding the direction of healthcare and welfare for Nacatlah.
Each alliance member's fate is in each other's hands. A true ryona experience.

MB Post >>41230260

I knew you'd say that. I admit that my wording is not the best.
Let's take the EU for example. France and Italy.
The leader of France is also the director of the EU Medicine Agency. The leader of Italy is also the director of the EU Food Agency. They do not rule as respective ministers. But to harmonise, mediate, supervise each other. Each member can do however they want, but the leader of the neighbouring nation supervise how it can be implemented throughout the allied realm.
Now, do this the same with /meat/. The instituitions you wrote, the Fellows, are like the EU Agencies.
The Stadrtlartoani of Matiriki is the Rikitnahualli. They are in charge of handling magic research and distribution of knowledge.
The Stadrtlatoani of Ryonaheim is the Rikitlaeknir. They are in charge of supervising medicine and welfare.
So your neighbour is not your minister, they are your supervisor at harmonising policies between the alliance members.

MB Post >>41231631

According to Founder's story https://rentry.org/vtwbg-meatreturn

"The Rightfully Won Champion of the Althing Game of Wit and Zeal;
Chosen One; Blessed One;
The Great Realm Speaker of All Abottoir;
The Wisest of the Nahualli;
The Strongest of the Vikingr;"

"For in every land, shall they be the workers and the scholars. Soldiers and priests. The society of two, of the soft hand and the hard hand.
For in every land, shall we be led by the faithful. Of an Abottoir. Who shall maintain and enforce the law of the Gods.
For each Abottoir, the gifted among gifted shall be chosen. The wisest of the wise, the strongest of the strong. To lead Fellows of The Places where their talents blossom and bear fruit.
For each leader of the Fellows of The Places, one of greatest mind, body, and soul will be chosen. To become the King of Kings, the Priest of Priests, and the Blessed Mouth of the Gods themselves. The Champion of the Althing Game of Wit and Zeal; the Rikitlatoani"

Each district will be specialised in a specific field. Each leader is elected bottom-up through things.
Someone from the intelligentsia class becomes a priest-mayor for a town abattoir. With enough merit, he gets elected as the leader for the county. Then the state. Then the country as the Stadrtlatoani. And when he becomes the leader of his state, he's in charge of supervising his area of expertise throughout the alliance.

To become the Rikittlatoani however is much more complicated. They have to prove themselves with knowledge and have military experience.
It's established that /meat/ allows transition of caste. From freemen to slaves, from slaves to free, from soldiers to scholars, mages to labourers.

exchange of class should one's family is deemed worthy or unworthy. A lowborn labour family could be a merchant tomorrow, a noble today could be fertilizer next week.
Sholo is a curious category, one that is sometimes dismissed by opponents of the system as a fabrication for propaganda purpose. It comprises the majority of slaves who willingly allow themselves to be enslaved, but are deemed insufficient to be wentli or awiyani for any reasons.

So the Rikittlatoani is chosen from someone who walked through both caste. As a soldier/marine/viking and as a priest/scholar/mage. Worked as a laeknir, fought as a vikingr, etc.
The balance of mind and body.

MB Post >>41488780

1. I see that each theocracy represents an aspect of /meat/’s inception, but where would /jerky/ chuubas go? Atoyavik?

Yes. Atoyavik represents corpo discussions so any corpo affiliated edgy-chuubas like Lia goes there.

2. You obviously took the various Realm Ministers from my story but you missed one, the Rikitlaeknir.

Ah right. So in the KTF lore doc https://rentry.org/meat-KTF you mentioned the Ministry of Battle.
In the list of ministers, there were no Minister of Battle. I was able to figure out the meanings of each role through nahuatl translation.
Temachtiani = teacher
Pochteca = merchant/spy
Tlalchiuhqui = farmer
But none of them were soldier/general etc
So it feels odd that the Ministry of battle was not in the list of mentioned ministers. So I thought of substituting the Rikitlaeknir with the missing minister of battle. If you want me to rewind this revision sure I don't mind.

3. Does specialization imply each clergy state is only allowed to do only their speciality? No farms in Ryonaheim, no workshops and training in Matiriki etc? That sounds terribly close to the world in Hunger Games and thats horrible for society

Luckily NO. The specialisations are only for the institutions themselves. Ryonaheim and Atoyavik CAN have farms and magical academies even if they are not their specialties. But if they wish to do any big projects, the respective institutions will be brought in.
For example, Matiriki managed to discover a new way of utilising chuubanite in building construction, the KTF centred in Nacatlah will be brought in to handle this research and further improve it and/or distribute it across the realm.
Nacatlan wishes to improve its rice and coffee hill farms, Matiriki agricultural experts are brought in to help with the project.
Among others. So no crippling overspecialisation. Each state is allowed to pursue every sector. But the realm wide institutions and their duties are in each other's borders. So the KTF will not be allowed to use Atoyavik and Matiriki resources for magic research without their agreement.

MB Post >>41497300

is it okay to give the power to organize and supervise the military and navy of the alliance to one state?

Crap I did not thought that through. Really sounds like a horrible idea in hindsight. We could have had our own Napoleon with that. Thanks for suggesting that