Here is a possible interpretation of how the magical energy and chuubanite could work.

1. Magical energy exists as a field, the magic energy field. This field is like the gravitational field or the electromagnetic field, it spans the entirety of the universe, and exists everywhere in it. This field has a subatomic particle that is associated with it, the magic energy particle.
2. Magic energy particles are analogous to photons, meaning that they too are quantisised (their energies and/or identities exist as discrete values), and they too have wave-particle duality. The magic energy particle can be in superposition with itself. For clarity, i shall call these magic energy particles "magic quanta".

   These magic quanta are observed in the magic energy field as standing waves that in some situations act like particles. The energy of a quanta is dependent on the amplitude of this wave.
   When magic does work, aka, when magic moves energy around, it is the magical energy field doing the work. Magic quanta are being transported into lower energy states (lower wave amplitudes), or being annihilated entirely, with their mass being transformed into the energy that does the work.

3. Each magic quanta has an identity. This identity could be expressed as a simple sine wave with a certain wavelength. As the quanta can be in superposition, more complex identities can be formed from multiple simple magic quanta combining into a super-magic-quanta.
   3.a. This combined quanta does not have the combined energy of the simple magic quanta, but it has a new identity which is a sum of the identities of the simple magic quanta.

   There exists a fundamental set of affinities/identities a magic quanta can take. These fundamental identities can be combined to make more complex identities. Depending on the complexity of the identity, it may or may not be stable, meaning that magic quanta with more complex identities may spontaneously decay back into simpler forms.
   Magic quanta can also be annihilated (as mentioned above). This annihilation process converts the magical energy field energy into forms of energy that are more familiar to us, such as heat, light, and movement.

4. Magic quanta do not interact with normal matter in the same way as the more familiar subatomic particles do. They may or may not be affected by gravity or electromagnetic forces.
5. Vitubium as a material is special in the way that it does not act the same way normal matter does. Whereas normal matter does not interact with the magic quanta themselves, vitubium does. Vitubium can also interact with normal matter the same way normal matter can interact with itself. Vitubium that has chemically bonded with normal matter is called chuubanite.
6. Vitubium "atoms" can store and stabilize magic quanta inside them. Normal matter cannot. Magic quanta outside vitubium quickly annihilates.
7. Since the magic quanta have wave properties, they could experience tunneling. In this case, magic quanta that were previously "bonded" to vitubium can spontaneously appear outside it. As the magic quanta are not stable outside vitubium, they almost immediately annihilate, releasing their energies. In real world, this can happen to electrons, and this property of electrons is utilized in Scanning Tunneling Mircoscopes.

   The "decay" of chuubanite is not akin to radioactive decay, instead it is a sort of tunneling current. The vitubium atoms itself does not decay, it only loses the magic quanta that were bonded with it. Since the tunneling probability would be dependent on the surface area of the object, this form of "decay" would fit the rentry far better than radioactive decay would.

Sort of relating to >>24176804, each "concept" or "idea" would have its own unique waveform for the magic quanta. One could transmute one form of waveform into another by introducing or removing the right types of magic quanta with the right wavelengths to or from the combined quanta.
Chuubas and concepts could very well affect the magic energy field and then by extension, magic quanta and vitubium and chuubanite.

Under this interpretation, the morig diamond was not a pure diamond, it was a diamond that had impurities of vitubium, making it a type of chuubanite. In these impurities was bonded mori identity magic quanta. Like was suggested in >>24133863, the diamond combined with the risuner witch's intent would have taken the mori identity magic quanta and deconstructed it into more simple identities. The diamond in this case affected the magic quanta waveforms like a prism affects photons, it deconstructed the combined identity into multiple simpler identities, and released the magic quanta from the vitubium, causing the described effect. What the mori identity decayed into may be probabilistic, meaning that one would not get the exact same results every time, but one would have a chance of getting the exact same result any time.

i like how you structured this. i don't know as much about quantum physics as i do about nuclear physics, so forgive me if it's a bit above my ability to understand, but you basically turned my "universe of concepts" into an invisible "magic energy field" with quanta instead of the conceptual energy, yet they still have concepts attached to them, so you basically turned my idea into quantum mechanics. you even have room that would allow the cylinder analogy to still be relevant in the stuff about how complexity affects decay rate, though i think yours is reversed from mine. that's awesome. i don't know how i feel about the implications that intent alone can change physical stuff, though. if you are using the same tool, i would imagine it would be better for that tool to not dramatically change its effect based on what happens in your mind alone. also, can quantum tunnelling be controlled to a high degree of precision with our current level of technology? depending on what effect the magic quanta have outside the chuubanite, it might be possible to have nonlocality as a fundamental aspect of magic in this setting, which would make it difficult for me to understand. correct me if i am misunderstanding something.

Yeah, the the universe of concepts into quantum shenanigans is pretty much what i did there.

The intent was more of a side thought I just added there when I was writing it for, some reason, I personally dont see problem with intent affecting the magic energy field but im also not really adamant about the idea either.

I do agree on the "same tools should have similar results" logic though. I feel like intent in the form of, say, a chant or a prayer would be reliable enough to be an acceptable way for "intent" to affect vitubium, since anyone can recite the chant or prayer. I really like the idea of using the magic being a sort of religious thing, while not necessarily dependent on faith since I like the idea of all magic being at least on paper available to anyone. So, a prayer / chant uttered by someone who isnt a believer in a particular deity would still activate magic of that deity, as long as there is the intent of activating the magic.

Quantum tunneling is a very probabilistic thing but you can affect it (in real world, for example) by increasing the voltage difference between the tip and the sample. Higher voltage means more tunneling current. In the vt world, I'd imagine that one could increase it by increasing the amount of magic quanta within a given space. Higher number of, or higher energy quanta could reasonably have a higher % chance to tunnel out of the vitubium atom.

On the reverse, if one could somehow raise the magic potential barrier between the inside and the outside of a vitubium atom, one could also lessen the rate of "decay".

I'd imagine the sort of technology needed for manipulating the tunneling probabilities would be way outside the capabilities of anyone in-universe, save for maybe /nasa/. Scanning Tunneling Microscopy as an example was developed in 1981.

chant

lol, completely forgot about that. ok, that could make sense. how about the full metal alchemist-style "create your own runes/glyphs with your hands" idea, so instead of chanting, we get hand signals. the idea being that there is a little bit of chuubanite everywhere, including your fingers, and if it's further supported by other chuubanite formations, the hand signals, while incapable of producing anything on their own, can change some aspects of how the chuubanite reacts.

tunnelling

i figured it would be probablistic, but can it be directed? you basically say the range of possible places it can tunnel to increases, but is there a way to be certain where it shows up relative to the source?

reverse

i made an analogy for how i thought chuubanite should work. it would tell you how powerful a magical effect would be, how long it would take for the chuubanite to decay in use, and how much energy would be produced in that time. in my analogy, the cylinder's base would shrink the less specific your concept was, and the length of the cylinder would represent how common it was in the universe. the larger the base, the more energy could be burned in a single unit of time, resulting in a faster, brighter spark. you say that the more complex a concept is, the less stable it would be, resulting in a faster rate of decay, but depending of how you define complexity, it could either be that the idea that all other ideas originate from is the more complex one because it has more concepts it can break into, or it could be the opposite. now that i think of it, it might be closer to my expectation than i gave it credit.

technology

so it's inevitable that nonlocal chuubanite effects will become dominant, but that time is not there yet. as long as it requires some degree of effort, it's better than not, but i would hope there would be enough of a drawback that people who want to balance their effects by making it only work on contact wont be so disadvantaged that they can't do whatever it is they want to do with it. ok, i think i like your idea. i suggest you link it to the archive so we can hopefully discuss it further.

Chant and hand signals

I dont think those alone should be able to activate the magic. I think they should be used in combination with the activator substances and glyphs that were already in use.

Directing tunneling

As it is by its very nature probabilistic, I dont think there would be a way to be certain where a tunneled quanta would end up at. You can be "fairly sure" in that its probably close to the surface of the vitubium object, probably away from areas of high magic potential, but this is only a good guess, not a certainty. In theory, the quanta could appear 100 kilometers north inside some poor kronie's milk goblet, but the chances of this happening would be incredibly small, so small that such an event happening shouldn't really even be thought about, but not 0. Never 0.

cylinder

I dont recall reading the cylinder analogy before, forgive me for that.
You are right on how the complexity could be viewed. I didnt even think about that. My idea was simply that the simplest concepts have simpler waveforms (as in, closer to a sine wave), while more complex ones have waveforms that are different from sinewaves. As it is possible to construct any waveform from a combination of sine waves, so in this case I considered the simple waves being the originator concepts.

However, the idea that the originator concept would be the most complex one, in this case some sort of an incredibly unstable combination of near infinite other waveforms (all of them in fact), is a pretty interesting one too.

So basically there would be two ideas, "originator ideas as building blocks" (simple fundamental waveforms are combined to form more complex ideas), or "originator idea as a deconstructed source" (all concepts are deconstructed from the all-encompassing originator idea). I like both ideas personally, they've both got some good potential.

technology

I'd imagine that for the first few centuries nonlocal chuubanite effects would be on a very small scale, as manipulating the individial magic quanta would require tools of extreme precision, which would have to be constructed with tools that do not have extreme precision, making the building of gadgets that can manipulate magic quante incredibly difficult and ludicrously expensive, for a relatively little gain. At first at least.

Making magic a quantum field is definitely the best solution I've seen so far. It's the only way to allow the complex behavior needed by the magic threads want to do while also satisfying paragraphsanon's autism.

I dont think those alone should be able to activate the magic
the hand signals, while incapable of producing anything on their own, can change some aspects of how the chuubanite reacts.
tunneling

so you can't even be certain of the direction. so basically, it's so probabilistic that it might as well not even be a factor people think about, and it possibly can't be used in a practical way even by /nasa/, it's just a quality of quantum particles. as i said, i don't know as much about quantum mechanics as i do about other stuff, but it's interesting to think about.

simplest concepts have simpler waveforms

i gave the fibbonacci sequence as an example of a highly specific concept that is very common in nature, and "horniness" for /horni/ as a vaguer/broader concept that is also quite common. would you agree with that or would you see it as the reverse? if it's the same, then it might be a case of the stand alone complex, or just serendipity. also, i suggest you look through the archives for it, i went into a lot of depth in it, even going so far as to make a few equations for it, though i didn't want to define an individual unit of anything.

handsigns

ah my bad, thats what i get for multitasking

tunneling

In theory i could see a limited manipulation of the places where the tunneled magic quanta end up in, but I dont see how this would be useful outside maybe allowing for the construction of a magic quantum computer in the far far far future, but I dont think we ever should take the world that far.

horni

Horniness would definitely be a broad concept that is common in nature. Fibonacci sequence on the other hand would be a part of a larger set of ideas regarding mathematics and geometry, or perhaps a concept that is emergent from these more broader concepts. I am not sure i follow where you are going with this.
I'll got check the archives at some point. what should I search for? Cylinder?