/aicg/ meta

Comparison between the different services/models and frontends used by /aicg/.
These ratings aren't gospel. They're the opinion of one anon who tried to incorporate suggestions and push no agenda.

Services/models

If you're curious about a service, the OP should have the information you need.

🏆 - Best
🥈 - Great
🥉 - Good
🌱 - Usable
⛔ - Bad
🔀 - Depends
NSFW - general ERP-readiness (taking into account the need to jailbreak)
SFW - general RP-readiness
MEMORY - more size than retention, more memory = higher price for both cloud and local
CREATIVITY - low only for dumb assistants, can be increased with a CoT prompt
COMPLEX INSTRUCTIONS - stats tracking, logical conditions, multiple characters, etc.
PRICE - per token, per month, or for running local models one time purchase or per hour rental of the hardware
EASE OF USE - OAI keys or all proxies are easy, but still require JBs; Horde and subscription based local/NAI offer inbuilt nobrain presets; running local is not that hard because there's enough guides; anything can require shuffling prompt parts and finding the best temperature and other settings
/lmg/ - local models in general, the ones you can download and run offline, the best ones in the rankings

NSFW SFW MEMORY CREATIVITY COMPLEX INST PRICE EASE OF USE
o1-preview 🌱 🥉 🏆(128k) 🌱 🏆 HIGH 🥈
GPT-4 🏆 🏆 🥈(8k/32k) 🏆 🏆 HIGH 🥈
GPT-4 Turbo 🥈 🥈 🏆(128k) 🥈 🏆 MEDIUM 🥈
GPT-4o 🥈 🥈 🏆(128k) 🥈 🏆 MEDIUM 🥈
GPT-4o mini 🌱 🌱 🏆(128k) 🌱 🥉 LOWEST 🥈
Claude 3.0 Opus 🏆 🏆 🏆(200k) 🏆 🏆 HIGH 🥈
Claude 3.5 Sonnet 🏆 🏆 🏆(200k) 🥈 🏆 MEDIUM 🥈
Claude 3.5 Haiku 🥉 🥉 🏆(200k) 🥉 🌱 LOW 🥈
Mistral Large 2.1 🥈 🥈 🏆(128k) 🥈 🥈 FREE/LOW 🥈
Command R+ 🥈 🥈 🏆(128k) 🥈 🥈 FREE 🥈
Gemini 1.5 Pro 🥈 🥈 🏆(2kk) 🥈 🥉 FREE/MEDIUM 🥈
Gemini 1.5 Flash 🥉 🥉 🏆(2kk) 🥉 🌱 FREE/LOWEST 🥈
Grok 🥈 🥈 🏆(131k) 🥈 🥉 FREE/MEDIUM 🥈
NovelAI (Erato) 🥈 🥈 🥉(8k) 🥈 🥉 MEDIUM 🌱
NovelAI (Kayra) 🥈 🥈 🥉(8k) 🏆 🌱 MEDIUM 🌱
NovelAI (Clio) 🥉 🥉 🥉(8k) 🥈 LOW 🌱
CAI 🏆 ⛔(2k/3k) 🏆 FREE 🏆
/lmg/ 7B+ 🥉 🥉 🔀 🥉 🌱 LOW 🥉
/lmg/ 12B+ 🥈 🥈 🔀 🥈 🌱 LOW 🥉
/lmg/ 70B+ 🥈 🥈 🔀 🥈 🥉 HIGH 🥉
/lmg/ 100B+ 🥈 🥈 🔀 🥈 🥈 HIGH 🥉
/lmg/ Horde/proxy 🥈 🥈 🔀 🥈 🌱 FREE 🥈
/lmg/ subscription 🥈 🥈 🔀 🥈 🌱 LOW/MEDIUM 🥈

Notes:

  • Gemini API: free access is rate limited.
  • NovelAI models:
    • You must use "Generate more" functionalities to get longer replies
    • Prompting properly may require some tweaking, there's not enough guides on chat usage
  • Local models:
    • Check out /lmg/
    • Small brain/short memory models can be run on very basic hardware, but size+memory+speed vs. requirements curve is very steep
    • The settings and presets are offered as a single file to be easily loaded
  • OpenAI o1: not enough conclusive data.
  • Grok API: free credits until the end of 2024.

Quick notes on how to access each:

Frontend (service support) (outdated)

Three frontends are currently recommended, Silly, Agnai, and Risu. All have a lot of different features and are improving fast.

Miku is noteworthy, but difficult to compare. It uses sentiment classification to show different sprites for each message, and text-to-speech, supporting OAI, Kobold, Whisper, AzureTTS, ElevenLabs, and NovelAITTS.

Agnai Risu Silly Miku.gg
OpenAI API
Anthropic API
NovelAI API
Scale
Horde
Oobabooga
OpenRouter
Kobold
GooseAI API
Replicate API
Google API
Novelist API
Mancer API
Gemini API
Mistral API

Gemini works on all frontends if using it via reverse proxy. Mistral API supports OpenAI input (using the official API like a reverse proxy).

Frontend (features) (outdated)

Agnai Risu Silly Miku.gg
UJB ?
Online access
Local install
Multi-character chat
Multi-user chat
Image caption ? ✅(ext)
Image generation Horde, Stable Diffusion, NAI Stable Diffusion (ext) Horde, Stable Diffusion ) Stable Diffusion
Summary 🌱 OAI/Claude HF/OAI/Claude
Screenshot
TTS Web Speech Synthesis, 11labs, NAI Web Speech Synthesis, 11labs, VOICEVOX 11labs, Silero, System, Edge, Coqui, NAI 11labs, Azure, NAI
STT ✅(ext)
Emotion packs
Scenes
Embeddings ✅(ext)
Character sprites
UI styling
Bias ?
AI writes your message 🌱(add a card with your name as character participant) ✅ (auto-suggest) ✅ (impersonate) ?
Translation ? ?
Lorebooks ?
Regex search and replace
Phone use 🌱 🌱
CYOA ✅ (trigger feature)
  • Only agnai has support for choosing which character speaks at any time in multi-user rooms, although on the flipside it doesn't support fully automatic mode
  • (ext) means you have to install the Silly extras. They can be a little complicated to setup for non-technical users.

Outdated uninteresting information

NSFW SFW MEMORY CREATIVITY COMPLEX DEFS PRICE EASE OF USE
Claude (Poe) 🥈 🌱 🏆 🌱 FREE 🏆
Turbo (Poe) 🥈 🥈 🌱 🥈 🌱 FREE 🏆
Claude (Slaude) 🥈 🏆 🌱 🏆 🥈 FREE 🌱
Pyg (LLaMA) 🥈 🥈 🌱 🌱 🌱 FREE 🌱
NovelAI (old) 🌱 🌱 🌱 🌱 🌱 MEDIUM 🥈
Pyg 6B 🌱 🌱 🌱 🌱 FREE 🥈
Davinci-3 🥈 🥈 🌱(4k) 🥈 🌱 MEDIUM 🏆
Claude (API) 🏆 🏆 🏆(100k) 🏆 🥈 FREE 🥈
Claude Instant (AWS) 🥈 🥈 🏆(18k/100k) 🥉 🌱 LOW 🌱
Claude (AWS) 🏆 🏆 🏆(200k) 🏆 🏆 HIGH 🌱
/lmg/ Mixtral 🥈 🥈 🥈(4k-32k) 🌱 🥈 LOW 🥉
Mistral Medium 🥈 🥈 🥈(32k) 🥉 🥉 LOW 🥈
Gemini Advanced 🥉 🏆 🏆(32k) 🏆 🥈 MEDIUM 🥉
Claude 3.0 Sonnet 🏆 🏆 🏆(200k) 🥈 🥈 MEDIUM 🥈
Claude 3.0 Haiku 🥉 🥉 🏆(200k) 🥉 🌱 LOWEST 🥈
GPT-3.5 Turbo 🌱 🌱 🥈(4k/16k) 🌱 🌱 LOWEST 🥈
  • Poe: Create a bot over at https://poe.com/. Example: https://poe.com/coolreisen
  • Slaude: it's still viable for sfw purposes for anons with actual enterprise accounts
  • Bing: there are ways to use this version of GPT-4 for free, but it's "filtered"
  • Clewd: there are ways to use claude.ai version of Claude for free, but it's "filtered"
  • text-davinci-003 has been removed as OpenAI is discontinuing it.
  • Davinci-3: Use an OpenAI key directly in SillyTavern/agnai. You can use your own or buy one (search "buy openai key" on yandex).
  • Turbo: Same as davinci-3 but you can also use a reverse proxy.
  • Gemini Advanced: the rating is provided for Gemini 1.0 Ultra, which was served to subscribers in the beginning. Pay for a subscription.
  • Consensus on Gemini 1.5 Pro is: better than 3.5 Turbo, worse than 4 Turbo.
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Pub: 06 Apr 2023 19:23 UTC
Edit: 20 Nov 2024 10:55 UTC
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